Will that mean you will have a name change coming up "Vikania" :lol:
prcb1949 wrote:
Will that mean you will have a name change coming up "Vikania" :lol:
It's unlikely but it would certainly be more just than naming it after Américo Vespucio.
Cool article. Thanks for posting
GARGLEBLASTER wrote:
It's unlikely but it would certainly be more just than naming it after Américo Vespucio.
That would be "Amerigo".
And this site is on the same island as the other confirmed site. Not much of a surprise, probably more on the island or the nearby mainland.
One of the main reasons Columbus gets the credit it timing, timing, timing. And the fact that the Norse (a Viking was a Norse bandit, pirate, raider and the word is actually a verb, to go viking) abandoned their discovery and never returned. A combination of having a talent for getting the natives really mad at them (and being way outnumbered) and the coming of the Little Ice Age. Greenland was both their first and last settlement in the Western Hemisphere. It was also the base from which they sailed to North America.
robertjerl wrote:
That would be "Amerigo".
No, I meant Américo Vespucio. He was an Italian naturalised Spanish and that's how he spelt his name.
GARGLEBLASTER wrote:
No, I meant Américo Vespucio. He was an Italian naturalised Spanish and that's how he spelt his name.
He was born in Italy and the name given him was Amerigo.
Actually he usually used the Latin form Americus in his correspondence and papers. Using Latin as a universal language and the Latin form of your own name was a common practice for writings and correspondence in those days.
Some say the America came from the the Americus. But America is also the feminine form of the name.
He sailed for both Spain and Portugal at one time or another.
It depends on which language you are speaking. His Wikipedia entry in Italian gives it as Amerigo Vespucci, in Spanish (which is where I glean my infomation) it is Américo Vespucio and in English Amerigo Vespucci.
You have to accept that Christopher Coloumbus was not called Christopher Columbus but Cristoforo Colombo in Italian and Cristobal Colón in Spanish.
This is kind of like jumping on the bandwagon as there have already been rune stones dating pre-Columbus in eastern Oklahoma and Arkansas proving that the Vikings were there well before Columbus and the later Spanish explorers. However, some are now claiming that the Heavener stones were carved in the 1800's but others are dating it back much earlier.
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/americanstones.htmlI guess it boils down to (like all other history) it is written by the winners and those that want it to fit their version of history. After all, what will future historians think of things that they find in our dumps and how will they think we used them if all "current" documentation were destroyed and all they had to go by was the item?
I've seen several articles like this. There is a lot of evidence of the Vikings giving in North America in the early second century. The most interesting is the "runestone" that was found in Minnesota.
jsmangis wrote:
I've seen several articles like this. There is a lot of evidence of the Vikings giving in North America in the early second century. The most interesting is the "runestone" that was found in Minnesota.
Actually, the Norse in North America were explorers seeking to build settlements rather than Vikings. And Viking was what the Norse did in Europe, Britain, Ireland, the Med and the Near East. Leivar Ericsson's voyage was after the Viking age.
The Kensington Stone in Minnesota is most likely a hoax.
The newly discovered settlement is within easy distance of Leif's settlement at Vinland and not a major continental incursion.
Note: Greenland is on the North American plate and is less than 1000 miles from Newfoundland.
Columbus did not discover America , the native did .we just stole it from them .
DickC
Loc: NE Washington state
Food for thought!! :mrgreen:
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